Showing posts with label psychological. Show all posts
Showing posts with label psychological. Show all posts

Tuesday, 25 September 2012

Max Pemberton to champion our cause?

Max Pemberton has written a second article about M.E.. 


From some of the comments readers have left, I think I am rather glad that I missed his original article. He describes how he received torrents of hate mail following his original article. But since he starts this article by making the extremely uneducated statement that because XMRV and pMLV have been ruled out as causing M.E. that there is no biological agent, he is obviously inviting such hate mail again.

Funnily, reading the comments readers have left, he hasn't actually received the hate mail that he seems to be seeking. I've not seen one single comment supporting either him or his article, no M.E. haters, just a lot of people explaining to him how uneducated he is and providing some fabulous information on M.E.. The comments are not moderated; my own comment appeared on the site the second I posted it, so it isn't as if any M.E. hate is being hidden. I'm quite impressed by this.

He is a supporter of the 'M.E. is psychological' argument. His evidence seems to be the hate mail both he and Dr Wessely received. It seems to be a pattern of such thinkers that they completely ignore all the studies showing physiological evidence that M.E. is a neurological condition.

He is right in that people with M.E. are scared of M.E. being pegged as a psychological illness. He seems to think that this is because of the stigmatism psychological illnesses have though, when in fact it is because we can feel that it is physical. This just goes to show his own thinking on psychological illnesses, and that he's arrogant enough to presume that over 250,000 people think the same way that he does. Personally, I have absolutely no problem with admitting I have psychological problems. I've had severe depression and a breakdown in the past, am coming out of a depression again now. I have anxiety and PTSD, elements of OCD. It's no problem for me to say this. I do have a problem saying that M.E. is psychological though. I do not believe it is. I can feel the difference.

Doctor Shephard is the perfect example of a convert. He was a believer that M.E. was psychological, until he became ill with it. He has described the transformation to his life and his thinking in various places online.

Max does actually point out further into his article that the hate mail he received was perpetrated by only about 200 people, many of whom didn't even seem to be in the UK. I believe he placed this far into the article on purpose, as people who just read the first couple of paragraphs will miss it; their overall impression will be that all biological agents have been eliminated as possible causes of M.E.. He doesn't explain that there are over 250,000 M.E. sufferers, 200 is a minuscule portion of these. He's used the behaviour of these 200 people as evidence that we are all mentally ill. This is not particularly rational behaviour in itself.

I find it amusing that at the end of the article he says he "has a deep sympathy for sufferers of M.E.", that he'd "happily champion their cause" but that because of his experience he doesn't wish to be involved. (So, no, he wouldn't happily champion the cause). After writing one hateful article on M.E., and this one smiting many M.E. sufferers, it seems strangely ironic that he would make this hollow offer. It would be amusing for someone of his vein of thinking to champion the cause of M.E. though. Assuming such a role would mean working with M.E. sufferers, meeting with people regularly, seeing what we live with and go through on a daily basis. I don't think it would be long before he changed his mind about it being psychological.

Monday, 1 August 2011

Shoot the medical messenger

I'm actually tickled by this one! I've taken it from a link on one of the forums, who have taken it from the ME Association website ... who have taken it from the Sunday Times. You would think that the Sunday Times would have someone with a medical background proof read their medical articles. Apparently not.

This article has been written in response to the piece on Radio4's Today program. Once again they have completely ignored the part by Dr Shepherd, instead focusing on Simon Wessely's interview. And of Wessely's piece, they have focused on one tiny part, the part that annoyed me the most as it happened; the assertion that people with M.E. would rather have an incurable biomedical illness than a treatable psychological illness. For some reason they assume that the reason many people with M.E. are upset at all the research money for M.E. being put into psychological research, is because we do not wish to be labelled as being mentally ill. It seems to have failed to register with them that most people with M.E. are already on anti depressants, suffering from depression, or anxiety. Most of my M.E. suffering friends suffer from at least one psychological difficulty. None of us have any shame in admitting to it though. We simply do not feel that M.E. is also a psychological illness.

But I digress. You will notice that the writer of this article does not actually know the difference between a psychological condition and a neurological condition. I am guessing they think 'it's in the head' pretty much sums it up.

Taken from thefreedictionary.com:
Noun    1.    psychological condition - (psychology) a mental condition in which the qualities of a state are relatively constant even though the state itself may be dynamic; "a manic state"
Noun    1.    neurological disorder - a disorder of the nervous system.

And just to be clear:
nervous system n. The system of cells, tissues, and organs that regulates the body's responses to internal and external stimuli. In vertebrates it consists of the brain, spinal cord, nerves, ganglia, and parts of the receptor and effector organs.

In other words ... it has a biomedical root.

So, after having ceased laughing at the obvious faux pas of this creative writer, I was then perplexed as to how he could ascertain that "some sufferers cling with grim and livid determination to a non-existent biomedical explanation". Read that again; he knows that M.E. has no existing medical explanation? Can he share with us how he knows this? The evidence? The research? Pretty please.

His whole article is written in such a tone as to make fun of people who suffer with M.E.. This is serious and I shouldn't be laughing. I really do hope that most people reading it will see that he obviously does not know what he is talking about; he made a huge mistake in showing his ignorance regarding mental and neurological conditions, and The Sunday Times slipped up badly in not having an expert proof read the article. I am saddened that anyone can think it fair to make fun of a serious condition; I only hope that when The Sunday Times receive a plethora complaints regarding his idiocy that they revoke his payment for doing so.


‘Shoot the medical messenger – see if that’ll cure you’, Rod Liddle in The Sunday Times, 31 July 2011
by tonybritton on July 31, 2011


From The Sunday Times, 31 July 2011 (comment piece by Rod Little)

Shoot the medical messenger – see if that’ll cure you

Medical experts who put forward controversial ideas should investigate their theories and not give in to ‘extremist’ sufferers

They are hopping up and down with fury at the ME Association, the organisation that helps people suffering from what used to be known as “chronic fatigue syndrome” but now, for politically correct reasons, is known as myalgic encephalomyelitis.

Actually, I say they’re hopping up and down, but given the nature of their affliction, they’re probably sitting quite still, really. I meant hopping up and down as a figure of speech. Either way, they’re very angry. The problem was an interview on the BBC Today programme with a leading researcher into the causes of chronic fatigue syndrome, Prof Simon Wessely.

He believes the illness, which results in debilitating tiredness, aches and pains and so on, probably has a neurological basis.

As a consequence, he has received menacing phone calls and even death threats from “extremist” ME sufferers. So too has another researcher, Prof Myra McClure, who says she will now have nothing more to do with the whole business because she’s fed up with being abused.

It seems that those who suffer from ME, which used to be known as yuppie flu, do not wish to be stigmatised as malingering mentals, which is what they fear will happen if the illness turns out to have a psychiatric rather than biomedical basis.

On the ME Association website they don’t actually threaten to kill Wessely; instead you are left with the impression that he is pursuing this line of inquiry for mysteriously infernal purposes, and that he knows nothing about anything, and that he is part of a conspiracy with the whole psychiatric profession and the Today programme, especially Sarah Montague, and the government to cover up the real truth about chronic fatigue syndrome.

Indeed, such is the foaming paranoia on this site that you begin to suspect that if ME does have a neurological basis, it’s probably going to be the least of their mental worries.

The truth about ME, they assert, is that it is the consequence of some sort of weird retrovirus. In other words, it’s a proper illness, which we’ve caught from someone or something; it’s been given to us, it didn’t originate with us.

It is a peculiar and distressing, if not untypical, reaction from people faced with a mysterious and incurable disease. As Wessely himself says, in blank incomprehension, they would rather the disease be the consequence of a retrovirus that could possibly be fatal than be the result of a neurological disorder for which there is at least a form of palliative treatment.

No matter what evidence is marshalled by the likes of Wessely, some sufferers cling with grim and livid determination to a non-existent biomedical explanation; they assume, one supposes, that if it is primarily a mental condition then they have sort of brought it on themselves, and are in some way to blame for their affliction (which is a nonsense, of course).

Their denials and paranoia remind me a little of the reaction of some parents with autistic children who resist with fury the suggestion that this distressing condition might have been brought about partly as a consequence of assortative mating, as suggested by Prof Simon Baron-Cohen, rather than through mercury floating around in the atmosphere or the water pipes, or indeed the MMR vaccine.

The now wholly discredited MMR theory certainly served the psychological requirements of some unhappy parents, being not merely a clear cause but one that was imposed on their offspring by government diktat.

Baron-Cohen, meanwhile, received a lot of flak for this theory but, as he puts it, just because it is controversial doesn’t mean it should not be investigated.

Either way, some people seem to be terribly protective of their ailments, over which they believe they have a sort of droit de seigneur. Research of which, in their ignorance, they disapprove is seen as part of some plot to do them down and consequently underplay their suffering, and they decide its proponents must be vilified.